I've read a few posts in here, and none of them actually answered my question... I am a complete newbie to .NET ... I code XHTML & CSS for a large company and have some knowledge of ASP & SQL.
My question is where shall I start? What should be the first thing I learn and where should I get the info... I have just ordered ASP.NET 2 For Dummies and also VB.NET for Dummies... I have downloaded Visual Web Developer Express Edition and am VERY keen to start.
I hope I don't annoy too many of you with stupid questions once I get going...
Hi, There is always a start point!!
There is a nice book ASP.NET 1.1 Unleashed and now a new version ASP.NET Unleashed 2.0. Both books are best recommended.
There is also a good startng point:Learn ASP.NET
You should start with VWD, install it and start with it as soon as possible.
Feel free always to ask whatever you want. I am sure all are ready to help!
Regards
Actually I'm going to jump into this question and ask as well, I am new to asp, sql, and vb as well.
I basically was given a project that required all three so I have been learning as I go, do you (or anyone with the experience) recommend an order (I have asp.net 2.0 unleashed it is a good book)such as learning vb.net first then moving onto asp, or can you learn both at the same time. I have been working on this project so I have not had the luxury of time to really learn, I've just had to do, and while I have learned some (I know more now than I did when I started), after this project gets done, I plan on actually going back and learning the language(s). Any particular order in learning or can you learn them both concurrently and have it worked out, I'll admit more than once I have gotten lost in code trying to figure out which part was asp and which part was vb, not to mention there are to many commands I parrot without actually understanding what they actually do. I have been using notepad, and dreamweaver (in code mode) because that is the best way for me to learn something (I learn HTML and CSS before I learn dreamweaver
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Thats a good question... I wondered whether to learn VB.NET first and then move on - But I am creating web applications so really I should learn ASP.NET first and try to integrate VB.NET as I go.. Luckily I do know a very small bit of VBScript from using it with ASP which I hope will help me in the long run (hehehe.. I hope :-) ...
Are there any video tutorials for absolute beginners?? As I started watching the first beginners tutorial and even that says VWD Tutorial for VB programmers or something like that ...
.. If I could find some video tutorials for people who don't know VB script first then that'd be cool ... If not I'll struggle by...
Still are there things I should make a point of getting my head round in .NET?? For example in ASP VBScript the pre-built functions are something you HAVE to know about if you want to suceed?? Any advice...
(Thanks for the home page link too...
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Anyone... Surely you clever lot could give us a bit more info as to maybe where you guys n gals started??
Hi,
You might find this link (including video tutorials) helpful:
http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2006/02/26/Great-ASP.NET-2.0-Tutorial-Videos-Online.aspx
Also, I started with Professional C# by Wrox publication and learnt the language first and then came to Web programming. You can do both simultaneously, no issues. Just keep the fire inside you burning !
Regards,
Vivek
You guys should delve into VB a little bit, learn about its structure, functions, classes, Import etc. I think AT MOST a week should be enough (and that's a lot of time to learn it), and then you can start playing with ASP .Net!
Smiles.
ok... So VB 2005 or VB.NET?
VB 2005 means VB.NET ( visual studio 2005 ) on .NET framework 2.0.
-Vivek
Thanks for that...
dotnet_lee:
Anyone... Surely you clever lot could give us a bit more info as to maybe where you guys n gals started??
Assembler on a DEC PDP-11. From there, Bally Basic, Z-80 assembler, GW Basic, 8086/88 assembler, Basic-A, LISP, LOGO, a bit of Pascal, Cobol and Fortran, C, Visual Basic, C+, VBA, Perl, HTML, C++, Javascript, VBscript, how to do "Hello World!" in Jscript, VB.NET, CSS, a week of hating Python, C#, TSQL, one Java applet and a bunch of macro or scripting technologies along the way. And I still can't program my way out of a paper bag. :)
To get started you need to learn programming structure. You'll also need some basic OOP background to understand classes and inheritance. Learning those will take some kind of language, since you can't easily learn a pre-test or post-test loop without a language to program a loop in. Start with VB or C, and stick with that until you can do everything. Then translate that into the other one.
Get a copy of Visual Web Developer and never use drag and drop. Write the code. Let VWD mark up your improper syntax, even prompt you with Intellisense, but don't let a wizard do anything and forget any control properties except the main window in Source view. Once you've written a decent learning app, start a new one and drag and drop to create the same app. You'll see where to edit code by hand, what properties you can default and what parts of the IDE will make life easier instead of hiding the innards you're trying to learn.
Forget a week. Plan on a lifetime of learning and relearning. Take a class every year or two, buy a few books each year on new technologies or techniques and twice a year take a week to design and code an app you've never done before. Do it for your church, school or local charity. Sit with the users and watch where they screw up your carefully crafted app. Fix it so they can't screw up. Then make it pretty. Document it fully so that in a year or two you can go back and update it for them. If it's really good and widely useful, release it as open source and see waht people who you've never met will do to improve your code. And learn from them.
Above all, ask questions. Whenever you need to. Research the topic first so you don't ask dumb questions, and try to solve the problem yourself, but don't stay stuck on something when there is someone you can ask.
Good luck.
Jeff
Anyone... Surely you clever lot could give us a bit more info as to maybe where you guys n gals started??
The videos in the links below covers most of what you need to know because you already know web application. Then get a comprehensive book like Asp.net 2.0 Unleashed and you are ready. It is not rocket science.
http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/search.aspx?q=Video+tutorials&p=1
http://www.asp.net/learn/withpss/default.aspx?tabid=63
http://www.asp.net/learn/videos/default.aspx?tabid=63
Read the tutorials at the end of the first link below for OOAD(object Oriented analysis and design), while you wait for the Video version of Craig Larman's also very comprehensive OOAD book which you can order from the second link.
http://www.objectsbydesign.com/tools/certification.html#resources
http://www.phptr.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0130479500&aid=686ef932-f921-4820-99b0-fe6a0ad6f082&rl=1
Hope this helps and happy coding.
Hi there.
Being quite new to .NET and from the same background as you i do understand what you need!
I started at the learning zone here, and at the VWD learning site here:http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/learning/default.aspx
A set of really neat instructionsvideos for C# and VB lead you the way to a finished product while describing most of the essentials.. Could it be better that that?
Happy coding!
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